24 August 2016

Did Rabbi Meir Kahane Really "Get Ger"?

20 Menachem Av 5776

For those unfamiliar with the false messianism* of the "Ger" cult, I'll encapsulate it. Two self-described "Orthodox" rabbis, American olim, started a "movement" which they call "Ger" and claim it is based on recovered ancient knowledge, i.e. the "Torah of Shem". 

In short, it claims that nearly every reference to "ger" in the Torah is referring to gentiles and even claims that the righteous Ruth, the quintessential convert, never became a Jew, but remained a gentile. A blog post is too limited to get into this matter in great detail. For our purposes today, it's enough to address this blatant slander of Rabbi Kahane's name.

I owe who I am today as a Jew to Rabbi Meir Kahane. There is no Torah teacher I admire more. He was the embodiment of Emet and to have his name associated in any way with such a corruption of the Torah and Torah sources is something that I cannot remain silent about.

Unfortunately, Rabbi Kahane did not live long enough to witness the exponential growth of missionary infiltration into Israel or the tragic deterioration of what passes today for "Orthodox" Judaism. In 1990, he was invited by Vendyl Jones to participate in the First Noahide Conference, which he graciously did. But, the rabbi was addressing people he understood to be true Sons of Noah as described by our Torah and Sages and not the perversion of that ideal that exists today.

Those who today lay claim to Vendyl's legacy recently organized the Vendyl Jones Memorial Conference. It was essentially a "Ger" conference. Simply by virtue of his having been in attendance at the original, Rabbi Kahane's name figured large in the pre-conference publicity and one of the lectures was dedicated to his contribution to "Ger".

That's really rather funny because, were he here with us today, Rabbi Kahane would be their most feared and intractable enemy.

A portion of that lecture has been transcribed below. It speaks for itself.
...When it came time for the conference I was just kind of playing around with Meir Kahane, again it's the Vendyl conference and Meir was there and the 1990 thing so I talked to my good friend... so he's like Meir Kahane this and Meir Kahane that and, in fact, I'm only friends with this guy because I was teaching Kol HaTor Mashiach ben Yosef and he kept telling me Meir Kahane taught about Mashiach ben Yosef, too, so I thought...maybe he's alright. So, I bought the book [Rabbi Kahane's Or Hara'ayon] coming up to this conference. I don't know how you would translate it into English . It's not so translatable. The concept of light or the idea of light, I don't know how you call it... so, I started to research it coming up to this conference and I saw very quickly, I was looking through the Table of Contents, you know, where's the Ger, where's the Ger, there's gotta be Ger here, um, and there was.
There was a chapter about the non-Jew. And so, I opened it up and I did it pretty quick. I wasn't planning on hashing it out to that extent and I'm seeing, maybe he got Ger, maybe not, I don't know, this is, ...usually I don't get stumped by Ger stuff, but this one, he's got me. Literally, I'm not sure...maybe he didn't get it, he's wrong because everyone said he was wrong, he says he's right but we say he's wrong, but I don't know, maybe he did get it, I don't know, so I ruled in my own mind, he didn't get it, no, he didn't get it, he didn't get it and I gave a look again and ...I'll give it to him, maybe he got it a little bit, but he's not saying what we're saying because the difference is, this is where the teaching's gonna begin, Ger Toshav, whatever that is, can really go one of two ways, it's gonna be our friend the Ger, our good Ger, he's an awesome guy, you can call him all these different terms in the Torah, Ger Chasid and all your friendly Ger, and then there's your slave Ger, he's our servant, he makes us coffee, so I'm saying I think he's making slave Ger, [Rabbi Kahane's] not our friend. He doesn't know the Chasid Ger, he doesn't know him, so pewey on Rav Meir Kahane, right? But, he got Ger a little bit so I'll give him some respect. And I kept looking at it, and I just kept, you know, because he words it very difficult so either he really didn't get it or he got it so well,....

So, he started to win me over, because remember how many are getting Ger on this level? I say the Lubavitcher Rebbe...he gets Ger 10 out of 10, he is your best friend, Rebbe Nachman got ger 10 out of 10, he is your best friend, ...Rav Aharon Soloveitchik...the Ger authority of all time...[Rabbi Soloveitchik's book Od Yisrael Yosef Bnei Chai] is like the Ger Bible...when you get your Ger friends in Torah, it's a select company, it's a select company, not many people make my personal Mount Rushmore. ...so when you tell me Rav Meir Kahane is gonna be on my Mount Rushmore, man it better be worth it, alright, I'm telling you, you better earn your way up there because otherwise you're saying that the Gerim are slaves, this and that, we don't have that, alright? Our friends Rashi, Rambam, these are our Ger friends, alright, we do not pervert the Ger line. So, I was willing to even come here tonight and say that he got it just on emuna alone. I read enough about it, I live a busy life with all my other things, I'm not devoting that much time to this sefer, it's just not worth my time. He's Meir Kahane and then something changed. It's called a nice flight in the air so I had my eleven hours on Sunday, I was being kind of rough, I knew it was good and I knew I had what to talk about, ok, but I would give it a B+, ...which means he knew the sources and he was coming through, alright, and he was not a threat, and it would be interesting content for tonight...I mean he got a lot of things right, but not Ger.
After describing his 11-hour flight with a few jokes, the speaker returns to the subject of Rabbi Kahane and seems to imply that after spending further time perusing Or HaRa'ayon, he came to a different conclusion...
I had this gap of time and I'm telling you it was bomb after bomb after bomb, and I think he's the world record-holder. He's my guy. He came through. Meir, Rav Meir Kahane, he is the Ger guy. He is the one. I'm telling you he got it on levels I've never, he gave answers to questions.... this guy got it on such a level all you can say is he even got the little dinky Ger or maybe Ger is that big as someone who gets the truth is gonna get Ger, go to Ger, and it wasn't so small and random after all. Anyone on a path of truth is gonna run into Ger and we see it in our lives and our learning. It's not an accident... The Ger is the whole Torah. It's the path to Mashiach.... The challenge is to unite these two visions [i.e., the current Ger movement and what Rabbi Kahane taught regarding ger toshav].
B"H, Rabbi Kahane can speak for himself through the works that he left behind. So, you be the judge.

The Ger Toshav: Excerpts from The Non-Jew in Eretz Yisrael by Rabbi Meir Kahane in Or HaRa'ayon, Chapter 20
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Although the following is not particularly concerned with Rabbi Kahane, I'm including it here since it is part of this lecture given in Rabbi Kahane's name and it will demonstrate for you just how 'OFF' this so-called movement is...
[Concerning the Yefe Toar - the foreign woman taken in war] ...those women are called Ger, they're kosher to a Jew, even the Cohen Gadol can and did marry those women. How many of you have ever heard of Ruth? She was a Ger. And she was not a convert and she married a Jew. And that child becomes a Jew. I taught this in England. The midrash Rabbah on Parshas Naso, which is one of the biggest collections of Ger Torah that exists says, if a woman sanctifies her womb with modesty and purity of the Jewish code of excellence, let's call it, she marries a Jew, that child is a Jew. That's what became of Ruth and Boaz which gave us King David eventually. I taught that in London and they're like, no, no way... he admitted it was true, but his fear was you're gonna promote intermarriage with that and I said, you need to be a little smart about it. I found a book in Modiin by a rav today who is popular... it is literally written there, in stone, that a ger toshav in a time of jubilee can marry a Jew. And Ruth was the example. So, I guess I learned it ok. ...Ger woman allowed to Jewish man. ...Ger is the fourth house of Israel.
It actually gets worse, but we're short on space here. To conclude, NO WAY would Rabbi Meir Kahane, ztz"l, Hy"d, "Get Ger"!! Or agree to have his name associated with it in any positive way or that his writings would be characterized as supporting it. I have no doubt whatsoever that every legitimate student of Rabbi Kahane would agree with me. And all of them will be provided with a copy of this blog post for reference.

33 comments:

  1. So I'm not crazy after all. I knew there was something wrong with this group. Thank you for this post!!

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    1. Addition to my first comment: excuse me my language but this ger-guy is like someone, that claims, that every bathroom waste is mousse aux chocolate, bc it has the same colour. This is his ger=ger logic.

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  2. Vincent, there is so much wrong with what you said, I don't even know where to begin. But, if you have sincere questions, you can email me at tdnjslm@gmail.com.

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    1. Vincent, you THINK you know this subject, but all you really know is what one person has told you. I will tell you something your comments indicate you don't know. None of this is about what WE think, what WE want, what WE feel or think is fair. It is not about YOU or ME, the Jew or the non-Jews. It is about ONE thing...

      OBEYING THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN TO US BY THE CREATOR IN HIS TORAH.

      There is NO "Torah of Shem" that preceded the Torah at Sinai. It's all ONE TORAH. There is ONE Torah which was entrusted to the Jews once the world as a whole rejected it. And ever since, any individual who wants it, has to make a commitment to the Jewish people as a full covenant member to access it.

      If you try to take it any other way, you're just like an illegal alien creeping into a country that's not yours and owes you nothing because you didn't care enough to accept the responsibility along with the privilege.

      You have a country, you have a culture, you have your own path to walk before your Creator - be blessed and enjoy it. But leave the Torah and the Land of Israel to the Jews to whom it rightly belongs.

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    2. Vincent's post ,which I guess you deleted, was so crooked, I couldn't understand why it was posted.
      Your above description to Vincent is phenomenal!

      Anybody that doesn't understand it, doesn't want to.

      Judi

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    3. Thanks for your support, Judi. And I'm allowed one mistake each day. ;-)

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  3. Let's be honest, we should all realize by now that this is a spiritual war and these goyim are on the attack, starting with the evil Oslo that opened the doors to all the lichluch that has infiltrated in the medinah. These groups, these imposters are trying hard to worm themselves into the Land by trying to pull the wool over the eyes of vulnerable Jews. Those 'rabbis'? who go along with this are definite Erev Rav.

    Your bringing all this out is probably one the greatest mitzvot of this time of history where confusion reigns and has overtaken Israel and even the whole world. It seems quite clear that HaRav Meir Kahane was super special, one of the great scholars of Talmud and believe he was Moshiach Ben Yosef!

    May we now merit the coming of Moshiach Ben Dovid speedily! nili
    H' bless you.

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  4. What a confused mind, i couldn't read this stujot to the end. It's fully out if mind and not worth to waste 1 minute on it. It's ridiculous and against the mesorah. Question: are the goyim going nuts?

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    1. Yes!
      Its time to DOSH, the klipot are falling, because the Sparks are collected already.
      Only we, the Jews, where humble enough to agree to serve Hashem.
      We do and we listen.
      We accepted the Torah as the only nation and saved the world from destruction. This world survived just for the sake of the Torah in its pure form.
      Because we DO and LISTEN what our ABBA ask us to do, our speech is pure, thereby able to co-create!
      We got free will, that was continuosly tested by the twisted speech of the gentiles!
      Now holding the Sparks from all over the world and bringing it back, to Jerusalem, the twisted testers and deniers of the Pure and Only TRUTH, the Tora are freaking out for their existence is no more needed.

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  5. Shiur here if anyone has the stomach for it.

    -me

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  6. Another sign of the times...

    http://earthquaketrack.com/quakes/2016-08-24-01-36-33-utc-6-2-10

    Tick tock everyone, get on track, get on board. NS

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  7. Mama mia, something ger wrong on the top of Tsfat!!!
    Instead of Noah there is kat z.

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    1. He's in Modi'in now.

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    2. Let be know, that the world is shaking and thats for only reason. To prepare. These groups are here to do their job. To wake us up, to claim our heritage.
      Hashem do not want His Holy Land to be full with cats, dogs, snakes and pigs. He want all His faithful sheep back home and purify them. To get out miztrayim out of here!
      The balance was distorted by us being to nice. This is changing. Look at the character of a sheep or the others.
      The Shechina is fully returning and it freak the other out!
      At the moment we do fully tshuva, these "noises" will be gone. For now they have a purpose to really wake us up.

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    3. Orna Nitzevet, you are absolutely right! Kol hakavod lakh and Shabbat shalom!

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  8. I've even heard them say that a nonJewish ''Ger'' male can marry a Jewish female and it's okay!!! Anonymiss

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  9. David Katz: I know the author...shes a bitter and nasty convert. I know her daughter as well...they used to support my work until they felt ger tzedek non jew 'stole' their title/status. Shes bitter erev rav who gets joy in thinking of non jews being killed which she claims is what rav kahane taught. I actually partially had her in mind in this talk because of her distorted rav kahane teachings. I set the record straight in the talk.

    What do you have to say for yourself? Q

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    1. I think it speaks for itself. However, I must set the record straight that neither I nor anyone in my family EVER "supported" his "work". In fact, I have never even met the man, nor do I care to.

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  10. "ger tzedek non jew"????
    Living in Israel and atacking Jews?
    (True converts that took upon themself the mitzvot, kashrut, family purity etc, are part of the family).
    Will a ger tzedek non jew atack the teachings of rabbi Akiva while self being ger tzedek non jew ?
    How can someone be ger tzedek and non jew at the same time?
    Perhaps because a Jew is not in the eyes of ger tzedek non jew the same as in yhe eyes of Hashem, the Creator of Jews, His people, and the rest of the Creation?
    And then atacking the Fire of not to be abused pure word of Hashem In Torah in a real Jew, rabbi Kahane???
    Oy va voy!!!

    Orna Nitzevet

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  11. Re rabbi katz, when I started to read his blog, after a while, I realized something isn't right. His obsession with non Jews and noahides. Fine, if it is just part of teaching to a degree, but felt there is something wrong, very wrong with his hashkafa, his whole outlook on Jews and non-Jews, as if they were, c'v, one. A ger tzedek, as I have been taught, is a righteous convert! They are even beloved to H' than born Jews! Today we really need the gerei tzedek as we have so many false conversions. A non-Jew is NOT allowed to live in the land unless they adhere to the seven laws of Noach and they know they are NOT Jews and are not allowed to observe the Taryag mitzvot. A grain of sand is not allowed to be sold to a non-Jew in Eretz Yisrael. Why is this such a problem? The world is very large and these non-Jews are not from Israel, naturally; so, why do they need to invade our small Land. It is only for one reason, the takeover and replacement of Jews and Judaism in the Holy Land. They understand that it is holy and they want it, according to their farkrimte philosophy. Read Tehilim 83!

    zev

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  12. Wait, can a ger tzedek the non jew, be a rabbi. Or can just the Jew become a rabbi??? ??? ??? ??? ?
    ענבי רוש
    Give me a headeck, and at the same time hope to DOSH!!!!
    Minus עש by נבירו!!!
    The smell of kosher home(in Israel!) baked challot with extra taste of the HALLO caused by SHEMESH TZEDAKA without the clipot offcoarse!
    Dosh, dosh, dosh! You hear it?
    Orna Nitzevet

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  13. Of course, the righteous convert(ger tzedek) can become a Rabbi! They are fully Jews! They are not ger toshav (non-Jews, i.e., Noahides. A true convert can, of course, become a Rabbi. Onkelus was a convert (every chumash has his Aramaic commentaries). Rabbi Akiva was a descendant of non-Jews and so on. nili

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  14. annie a gentile noahide26/8/16 4:05 AM

    Well...not all gentiles who follow the noahide teaching from the Jewish Rabbis are people who want to take over the Jewish Land.

    I agree that there is a horrible movement where gentiles are coming in with an ulterior motive...but know that there are some gentiles..(i don't know what to call us...the verdict is still out...), but we are here...just trying to learn the Truth of what avodah zara we've been involved in and trying to get OUT of...but not take the role of the Jew...nor replace You all...nor take The Holy Land HaShem has given to You to possess.

    I hate that there are some gentiles who are trying to deceive You all... but know that there truly IS something going on and it is a wonderful Work of HaShem. Baruch HaShem!!!

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    1. There's no question, Annie. And I was involved with a group of real, actual Bnei Noah once upon a time and I know it well enough to say that like the Jews, the sincere ones are a very small minority of the whole claiming to be one.

      Know that this is a very difficult time we are living through where there is a lot of darkness and onfusion and it's very hard to find the actual truth - for us as well as for you. But, know this - you will not find any good answers in this "Ger" movement. It exists to weed out the undesirables. And that's just the truth of the whole matter.

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  15. Annie, Hashem know about you and you a like, don't worry, just stuck to the Truth.

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  16. What is the name of the lecturer being quoted?

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  17. D Katz, author of World of the Ger.

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  18. http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/cat-stuck-in-the-western-wall-video/2016/08/27/

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