26 June 2018

No More "Mashiach" For Me

13 Tamuz 5778

Semantics Matters

So, someone emailed me privately and suggested that each group of people has their own messiah who will lead them to God at the End of Days. Several people have pointed out that the term Mashiach can refer to a gentile king as in the case of Koresh, etc. - something of which I am well aware and which I do not deny. 

But, the idea that there will be a Mashiach for Eisav and also one for Yishmael or that the word can apply to any world leader of the day because they are "messianic figures" is not only NOT backed up by Torah sources, it is downright dangerous.

We live in fraught times, so I hope no longer to use this terminology, bl"n, but to use instead the language of the Prayer Book and the Prophets...
Opening Blessing of the Amida Prayer
Blessed are You, Hashem, our God and the God of our forefathers, God of Abraham, God of Isaac, and God of Jacob; the great, mighty, and awesome God, the supreme God, Who bestows beneficial kindnesses and creates everything, Who recalls the kindnesses of the Patriarchs and brings a Redeemer [Goel] to their children's children, for His Name's sake, with love.
Shabbat Pre-Minchah Prayer
'A redeemer [Goel] shall come to Zion and to those of Jacob who repent from willful sin,' the words of Hashem.
From now on, bl"n, I will try to substitute Redeemer or Goel [the One] in place of Mashiach [the 'apparently' Many].

Focus on the Bigger Picture - What Is At Stake

Some of my readers may find this extreme, but allow me to paint a scenario for you which may explain more adequately what I see as the problem with multiple Mashiachs at the End of Days.

What better way for the globalists to bring about their New World Order than to bring each group their expected Christ (Yeshu) , Messiah (Moses), Mahdi (Mohammed), etc. and have each one instruct his own group to make peace with the others. Each will be allowed to keep his own religion as long as it accepts "the other" and abandons "extremism" and all will unite together in Jerusalem, on the Temple Mount, at "The House of Prayer for All Nations."

An explanation for why there is no resulting Gog uMagog War has already been offered. The evil decree was cancelled. We merited to bring redemption early.

Much groundwork has already been laid to facilitate this plan. It is unfortunately very far from being unimaginable. I'm not accusing anyone in particular of consciously or intentionally attempting to plant seeds of doubt in impressionable minds which might cause them to stumble and err should such a scenario ever materialize - God forbid! - but, it could happen subconsciously and unintentionally and the harm would be the same regardless.

I can even give you the "prooftexts" they might use...

For Christians (Luke 9:28-30)
Jesus...took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray. As he was praying, the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning. Two men, Moses and Elijah, appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. (New Testament)
For Muslims (Sahih Muslim, 2/58)
... it is clear that Jesus, Moses, Muhammad and all other Prophets (God's peace be upon them all) had one and the same mission.  ("Jesus in the Quran," "Jesus Will Return" : Islamicity)
Our Prophet also told us that Jesus will be sent back to earth and related that in that time, which is called "the end of time", there may be a period in which the earth will attain unprecedented peace, justice and welfare.

In Sahih Muslim, it is also stated that the Hadith in which it is said that the Prophet Jesus will descend amongst people at the end of time have reached the degree of being mutawatir, i.e. narrated by so many people in each generation that it is not possible to have any doubt of their authenticity, and that it is counted as one of the major signs of the Day of Rising. (Sahih Muslim, 2/58)
For Jews (Zechariah 4:11- 14)
Then I asked the angel, “What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?” Again I asked him, “What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?” He replied, “Do you not know what these are?” "No, my lord,” I said. So he said, “These are the two anointed ones who stand before the Lord of all the earth.”
Some... many... Jews might now buy into the idea that Mohammed is Mashiach Ben Yishmael and Yeshu is Mashiach Ben Eisav because our own prophet references "two anointed ones" and they already misrepresent the Rambam's ideas about the 'value' of Islam and Christianity and how it has paved the way for the world to look for a Messiah.

Recently, Jews have become very chummy with Christians and as a result, they have begun quoting their Christian 'friends' version of "prophecies being fulfilled before our very eyes." There is active 'reaching out' to Muslims going on in some Jewish circles as well. 'Rabbi' Yehuda Glick, for one, is actively engaging all sides and is a key advocate for The House of Prayer for All Nations where all religions are represented.

Don't think it can't happen!! We don't know how far Hashem will let this proceed as a test of loyalty to Him before he cuts the evil off. We are all vulnerable unless we cling to HKB"H with all our might and remain steadfast and true to our Torah and Mesorah.

Both Christians and Muslims expect Yeshu to come back to earth from the sky. How hard would it be to simulate this earth-shattering event with current 3D Holographic Technology and how would Jews react to it if the majority of the billions of the world's population believed it? They already believe fake news!

Like Moshe Rabeinu and Aharon HaCohen - Mashiach Ben David and Mashiach Ben Yosef will work in partnership to redeem Am Yisrael, but Mashiach Ben David is the One who will be crowned and known as Goel Yisrael.

Also like Moshe Rabeinu, the Redeemer comes to redeem Yisrael, not the world. As the pasuk says...
'A redeemer [Goel] shall come to Zion and to those of Jacob who repent from willful sin,' the words of Hashem. (Isaiah 59:20)
Although, the righteous of the nations, along with all of creation, will certainly benefit from it, the Redeemer comes to fulfill the promise to redeem Yisrael. And again, just like Moshe Rabeinu, there is only One.

You've been warned, so this concludes my remarks on this subject, except for comments below.


  1. IMHO from what I understand from studying the neviim gog u'magog only happens AFTER the redeemer of Israel is revealed and the beit hamikdash hashlishi is built (at least partially).
    Seeing as the first two parts of gog u'magog have already happened, why would the last part not happen in which our enemies are finally destroyed??? That would be the WORST punishment to us, which we would NEVER recover from because our enemies would rule then forever... How does that make sense to anyone??

    --The Original Me

    1. You are right. I've edited it now for clarity. When I said "beforehand," I was referring to before the world peace was established, not before the meshichim would arrive. Remember the Xians and the Muslims also believe that there will be a grand showdown between good and evil at the end. They can claim these "Divine messengers" have come to spare us this global catastrophe. Who knows, maybe they will even come with an origin story that harmonizes "aliens" and science, and religion, etc. for those who never subscribed to a religion per se. They'll no doubt have something to offer everyone - the biggest con in the history of the world.

      You can see how if peace comes to Syria (the civil war there is winding down, the rebels are spent) and the deal with N Korea sticks and regime change comes to Iran with an overthrow of their Islamic government - all of which is currently in process - we will be the final sticking point.

      Mark my words, this famous "Deal of the Century" will most certainly include the internationalization of the Old City of Jerusalem with the status quo intact. This is what Eisav has been aiming for all along. There are people and plans already in place to bring all the "non-extremist" Jews on board. Expect the "Nascent" Sanhedrin to approve.

      Furthremore, it is not coincidence that brings Prince William (the King in Waiting) to Israel davka now while Kushner, Greenblatt et al are making their deal. They needed a non-involved party from a nation with a reputation for championing the Arab cause to do a little carrot-and-stick routine on Abbas. (Wonder where Tony Blair is through all this.) Britain is always the US's partner in crime.

      This all just goes to show how very close we are to the culmination of our long drawn-out wait for the Redeemer of Israel!

  2. These 2 groups have tried throughout history to get rid of the Am Yisroel; now they see we have come through they are trying a different dirty tactic.

  3. TOMER DEVORAH. This needs a CLARIFICATION. Especially during the week of Parashat Balak, where the Prophet Balak foresees the coming of both King David and David's Descendant Mashiach Ben David. While it is TRUE that the Nations/Peoples/Tribes will have their Elders/Rulers/Princes/Kings THERE IS ONLY ONE THERE IS ONLY ONE THERE IS ONLY ONE Melech HaMashiach Ben David. The Tannach makes it ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that he will be HaShem's Commander in Chief of ALL nations/tribes/clans/families of this world. Aryeh Yosef Ben Meir


    Yeshayahu/Isaiah 55:3-5

    ג הַטּוּ אָזְנְכֶם וּלְכוּ אֵלַי, שִׁמְעוּ וּתְחִי נַפְשְׁכֶם; וְאֶכְרְתָה לָכֶם בְּרִית עוֹלָם, חַסְדֵי דָוִד הַנֶּאֱמָנִים. 3 Incline your ear, and come unto Me; hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
    ד הֵן עֵד לְאוּמִּים, נְתַתִּיו; נָגִיד וּמְצַוֵּה, לְאֻמִּים. 4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the peoples, a prince and commander to the peoples.
    ה הֵן גּוֹי לֹא-תֵדַע תִּקְרָא, וְגוֹי לֹא-יְדָעוּךָ אֵלֶיךָ יָרוּצוּ--לְמַעַן יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, וְלִקְדוֹשׁ יִשְׂרָאֵל כִּי פֵאֲרָךְ. {ס} 5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and a nation that knew not thee shall run unto thee; because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel, for He hath glorified thee. {S}


    1. Bs''d

      Thank you for the sanity by the rules of our Ha Torah, Yosef and Dvash! Now we need for sure half water meloen to keep sane in the heat (magnesium) but i still cannot believe how much nonense....there is no other TORAH then the Torah of Moshe Rabeinu! There is no other Mashiah beside Moshe until Mashiah ben David is crowned, and did all his duty as our prophets say for thousand of years! Remember for your own sake: Challot from good quality CHITA bli klipot...is wat keep us connected to the true Malchut of Hashem.
      Ha Torah
      and Miztvot
      Seora+ Chita=613
      Thank you!

  4. Just like esau and ishmael to cook up yet another false moshiach to dupe everyone into thinking the era of moshiach has arrived.
    Once the time arrives and Torah Jews reject their false moshiach yet again expect anti semetism to go through the roof. Hopefully we merit the rise of moshiach ben Yosef at that time.

  5. Devash - As I understand your point - I hope I do - Mashiah is the keyword the world has been using for millennia. So you are changing terms in order to clarify what we have been hoping for all this time - the Redeemer, or Go'el. Thank you.

    Another possible insight: Mashiah means anointed - by someone else, therefore a passive title. While Go'el denotes what the person does - himself, an active title. All with G-d's help.

    1. Rambam himself referred to the coming Redeemer as Melech HaMashiach. They are one and the same. But, if suddenly people are going to start talking about multiple mashiachs, I don't feel I have another choice but the choose a title that does not lend itself to that interpretation. Does that make sense?

  6. You hit the nail on the head. This is a perfect article truly clarifying what Moshiach is all about in these confusing times, because the Jews have strayed so far from Torah. The nations have taken everything from us enabling them to create their religions. We have come to the end of days and they feel that too. The PTB have everything in place, they think, for their big showdown and when there is a public as uninformed and Jews who are void of any knowledge of Torah, it is easy for them to create all the science fiction, etc. you have cited above. Your contribution to educate the Jewish public is vital and this above article says it all. Why there are rabbis who confuse the truth (even if they don't mean to) by insuating outside players and events is problematic. Truly believe the scenario you bring up in this post is very real, especially how Rivlin has asked the English prince for help with the arabs.
    The worst trait of the Jewish people has always been and is worse now than ever before is 'to be loved by the nations'. As long as most Jews are far removed from H' and Torah, they remain as mixed up as ever, r'l. Please wake up Jews and start learning who you are and what it means to be a Jew and only then will you know what 'TRUTH' is.

  7. The scenario concocted by the evil minds that there may be a Mashiach ben Yishmael and a Mashiach ben Eisav to save such nations is worse than we think. The intention may be to eclipse the real Mashiach with worldly people portrayed as redeemers/ saviours in the End of Days.
    Unfortunately there are Rabbanim falling into such a pit, ignoring the Scriptures for the sake of their welfare. An entire plot is constructed, we shall see even more in the future. The fabrication of new Messiahs is a shocking event to sprout from a qualified Rabbi. We reject such transgrations! What was the price for it? Shaul