KJ as those "in the know" call it, is de facto the POOREST town in the United States according to the US census bureau. As of 2009, two-thirds of residents lived below the federal poverty line and 40% received food stamps. I doubt if these numbers have improved 11 years later.
Meanwhile, in in the Chasidic community in Williamsburg NY, there is the LARGEST concentration of section 8 housing vouchers in NYC.
Acheinu Bnei Yisrael.... We cant complain when we cause such a massive hillul Hashem that problems arise. And the fact that the POOREST city in America a Hasidic village is MASSIVE hillul Hashem. Compounded by the fact that KJ is totally dependent on government subsidies to exist.
And yet, instead of taking care of his poor brethren in KJ or Williamsburg, the Satmar/Williamsburg Rebbe somehow found a cool FIVE MILLION DOLLARS in "pure money" to distribute to 150 anti Zionist institutions in Israel.
If you are an esauvian and you see this behavior from Frum people, it breeds resentment and ultimately much worse... I'm not excusing violence or hatred by any means, however in flash points between the frum communities like KJ and the esavian community, both sides have serious issues. Frum people in KJ can't claim ignorance or innocence.
To think that somehow otherwise, that Jews are "American as Apple Pie" and that Esau will be peaceful is a sick joke and is doomed to failure. Nothing in Jewish history proves otherwise.
Torah tells us Esau SONEI Yaakov. Always and forever. And ultimately, Esau will use violence. It is his nature. Always.
an aside - 150 years from now people will probably look at KJ and Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn like we read about shtetls in the Ukraine and Poland, mellas in Moroco or Jewish villages in Spain. Places that no longer exist.
Please, remind me why Israeli authorities allowed this person to come in the first place. Isnt there an anti-boycott law against foreigners trying to enter our country?
It's an interesting point. Considering that the Satmar ideology is against the formation of/or working with the state of Israel in any form unconditionally. Which begs the question how Satmar ideology is different from BDS.
Of course this raises a further question. Why did the Satmar/Williamsburg Rebbe land in a zionist airport, drive on zionist roads, stay in zionist occupied Yerushalayim or use the zionist security services to secure his visit? He could have easily flew into Amman and stayed in Ramallah. Of course, that would never happen because our cousins would probably behead him and his followers if they strayed into Ishmaelite territory. I guess a little cooperation with the zionist entity isn't so bad after all. But I digress.
And one of us is not about hasidic judaism even if if centers around hasid - it is the story of 3 people who left the community and why they left
But everyone has to admit that overpopulation and over development is not good for the neighbors, for the families and communities even for the planet because overpopulation leads to all the problems like what you see and hear including more resources being used, more land being developed and occupied thus destroying forests and wildlands, it is harder to keep a population stabilized when there is too much so that must also be thought of
I just do not understand why RELIGIOUS Jews willfully reject Eretz HaKodesh and choose to remain under Eisav. It just boggles my mind and I cannot understand it! May Hashem illuminate their souls and open their eyes with clarity... in an easy way as possible!
DG, I am so with you. Not spiritually, but emotionally I have given up on Jews in exile. I still daven for them, but have disinvested emotionally. On the whole they love their exile. It is one thing to daven for the welfare of the country you live in temporarily out of gratitude, and quite another to be totally identified with it. A rabbi in Australia wrote a prayer for "OUR fair island", British Jews all breathed a collective sigh of relief when Jezza failed at the polls, which meant they could stay in England's fair and pleasant land, chasidic jew performing at the superbowl was an absolute disgrace. And that is why they won't make aliya, because they are first and foremost Americans, Brits and Australians. Rabbi Eliezer Berkovitz zatzal gave up on diaspora Jews. He said American Jews behave as if the Moshiah landed in New Amsterdam. They are insulted if you speak to them about aliya. It's just not spoken about in polite frum society. The Jewish people in exile have learnt absolutely nothing from Jewish history.
In a nutshell, the religiousity of fanatics is not the Torah way. They live in their own little world and disassociate themselves from the rest of Jewry. Many believe that they are the reincarnations of the leaders and followers of the 10 tribes who sinned with the sin f the spies. They get free hand outs and is why they don't care whom they vote for because it doesn't matter if it's good for the rest of Jewry and Israel, as long as they are being cared for. I'm afraid there will one day be a wakeup call for them to get out of 'Dodge' in a flash. May H' give them some wisdom to know and think like real Torah Jews. How can they be Torah scholars when they think the galut might be a secure haven and not think that one day, just as history has proven, they will be considered interlopers and all the anti-semitism awakened in our enemies (as we see happening today). Afraid only when Moshiach comes, will the true Torah life as H' wants rom us will be revealed, so we can unite once again as one people as when we said Naaseh v'Nishmah as if one voice! Lev echad, Ish echad! in our holy Eretz HaKodesh, Eretz Yisrael!
KJ as those "in the know" call it, is de facto the POOREST town in the United States according to the US census bureau. As of 2009, two-thirds of residents lived below the federal poverty line and 40% received food stamps. I doubt if these numbers have improved 11 years later.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, in in the Chasidic community in Williamsburg NY, there is the LARGEST concentration of section 8 housing vouchers in NYC.
Acheinu Bnei Yisrael.... We cant complain when we cause such a massive hillul Hashem that problems arise. And the fact that the POOREST city in America a Hasidic village is MASSIVE hillul Hashem. Compounded by the fact that KJ is totally dependent on government subsidies to exist.
And yet, instead of taking care of his poor brethren in KJ or Williamsburg, the Satmar/Williamsburg Rebbe somehow found a cool FIVE MILLION DOLLARS in "pure money" to distribute to 150 anti Zionist institutions in Israel.
If you are an esauvian and you see this behavior from Frum people, it breeds resentment and ultimately much worse... I'm not excusing violence or hatred by any means, however in flash points between the frum communities like KJ and the esavian community, both sides have serious issues. Frum people in KJ can't claim ignorance or innocence.
To think that somehow otherwise, that Jews are "American as Apple Pie" and that Esau will be peaceful is a sick joke and is doomed to failure. Nothing in Jewish history proves otherwise.
Torah tells us Esau SONEI Yaakov. Always and forever. And ultimately, Esau will use violence. It is his nature. Always.
an aside - 150 years from now people will probably look at KJ and Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn like we read about shtetls in the Ukraine and Poland, mellas in Moroco or Jewish villages in Spain. Places that no longer exist.
Please, remind me why Israeli authorities allowed this person to come in the first place. Isnt there an anti-boycott law against foreigners trying to enter our country?
DeleteIt's an interesting point. Considering that the Satmar ideology is against the formation of/or working with the state of Israel in any form unconditionally. Which begs the question how Satmar ideology is different from BDS.
DeleteOf course this raises a further question. Why did the Satmar/Williamsburg Rebbe land in a zionist airport, drive on zionist roads, stay in zionist occupied Yerushalayim or use the zionist security services to secure his visit? He could have easily flew into Amman and stayed in Ramallah. Of course, that would never happen because our cousins would probably behead him and his followers if they strayed into Ishmaelite territory. I guess a little cooperation with the zionist entity isn't so bad after all. But I digress.
Is this similar to that documentary one of us?
ReplyDeleteAnd one of us is not about hasidic judaism even if if centers around hasid - it is the story of 3 people who left the community and why they left
But everyone has to admit that overpopulation and over development is not good for the neighbors, for the families and communities even for the planet because overpopulation leads to all the problems like what you see and hear including more resources being used, more land being developed and occupied thus destroying forests and wildlands, it is harder to keep a population stabilized when there is too much so that must also be thought of
I just do not understand why RELIGIOUS Jews willfully reject Eretz HaKodesh and choose to remain under Eisav. It just boggles my mind and I cannot understand it! May Hashem illuminate their souls and open their eyes with clarity... in an easy way as possible!
ReplyDeleteDG, I am so with you. Not spiritually, but emotionally I have given up on Jews in exile. I still daven for them, but have disinvested emotionally. On the whole they love their exile. It is one thing to daven for the welfare of the country you live in temporarily out of gratitude, and quite another to be totally identified with it. A rabbi in Australia wrote a prayer for "OUR fair island", British Jews all breathed a collective sigh of relief when Jezza failed at the polls, which meant they could stay in England's fair and pleasant land, chasidic jew performing at the superbowl was an absolute disgrace. And that is why they won't make aliya, because they are first and foremost Americans, Brits and Australians. Rabbi Eliezer Berkovitz zatzal gave up on diaspora Jews. He said American Jews behave as if the Moshiah landed in New Amsterdam. They are insulted if you speak to them about aliya. It's just not spoken about in polite frum society. The Jewish people in exile have learnt absolutely nothing from Jewish history.
DeletePeople who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and people who do learn from history are doomed to watch as it repeats.
DeleteIn a nutshell, the religiousity of fanatics is not the Torah way. They live in their own little world and disassociate themselves from the rest of Jewry. Many believe that they are the reincarnations of the leaders and followers of the 10 tribes who sinned with the sin f the spies. They get free hand outs and is why they don't care whom they vote for because it doesn't matter if it's good for the rest of Jewry and Israel, as long as they are being cared for. I'm afraid there will one day be a wakeup call for them to get out of 'Dodge' in a flash. May H' give them some wisdom to know and think like real Torah Jews. How can they be Torah scholars when they think the galut might be a secure haven and not think that one day, just as history has proven, they will be considered interlopers and all the anti-semitism awakened in our enemies (as we see happening today). Afraid only when Moshiach comes, will the true Torah life as H' wants rom us will be revealed, so we can unite once again as one people as when we said Naaseh v'Nishmah as if one voice! Lev echad, Ish echad! in our holy Eretz HaKodesh, Eretz Yisrael!
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