devash, these are all pawns in Hashem's Hands. and if only they knew, that they think they are rising, but only to fall before His firstborn.Cant the 70 nations see the havoc Hashem is smashing nations all over the world . the second volcano in indonesia is on highest alert, with mt. merapi. and other disasters. everytime one of the nations tries to impose or harm His nation, there is an immediate repurcussion. in weather or stock market or elections. i have been observing this for sometime now. all we among the 70 nations can pray is that Hashem forgives us on israel's merits and shows us the compassion we never showed you all through generations.