10 October 2019

Who Are the "Kurds"?

11 Tishrei 5780

This controversy about the Kurds has nothing whatever to do with Jews or Israel.  Ayelet Shaked is remiss in making public statements in regard to Israeli support for the Kurds. 

Certain Western powers made certain promises for certain favors in the past and that's between them and the Kurdish people.  The Kurds are ethnically Persian and religiously Muslims.  The PKK wants their new country to be Marxist.  None of this has any connection whatever to us.  

So, please stop playing their game of "Pick-a-Side."  Israel stands alone and apart with HKB"H!  

18 comments:

Esser Agaroth said...

You are absolutely right. I should probably watch this video, too. I want to make sure I wasn't too nice about them here: Kurdistan.

The one thing I found interesting about the Kurds was the map (embedded in the above link) from a Kurdish professor. It shows the map he believes should be Kurdistan, and it does not appear to conflict with the borders of a hopefully, future Land of Israel.

Jesterhead45 said...

Agree, though what to make of claims Jews and Kurds are genetically related?

Additionally Esser Agaroth is correct to point out Kurdish territorial goals curiously do not appear to conflict with the hopefully soon to be complete future Land of Israel.

Jesterhead45 said...

OTOH there are claims of past Kurdish involvement in the Armenian, Assyrian and Greek genocides as well as the more recent genocide against the Yezidis. The former relates back to similar Ottoman genocidal intentions towards the Yishuv and other Jewish communities within the Ottoman empire until they were defeated by the British in WW1.

https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2019/10/fwdfb-censoring-my-post-about-how.html

Devash said...

Who says "Jews and Kurds are genetically related?"

Jesterhead45 said...

From an old 2001 study at Hebrew University
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707613251

Devash said...

I did not find anything like that. On the contrary, apparently they fight together against ISIS. The Yazidis sound more like a possible lost tribe of Israelites than the Kurds do...10 Facts - Who are the Yazidis?

Jesterhead45 said...

It is difficult to make out the Kurdish position, on the one hand it seems they do appear to have some historical ties to the Jewish people even before Helena of Adiabene converted to Judaism, yet at the same time there must have been a reason to explain why they have not merited a state of their own since (hence the potential reprehensible actions).

Interestingly it is said many Muslim Kurds were actually Yazidis before they converted to Islam (with the latter revolting against the Caliphate as early as 838–841 under Mir Jafar Dasni), while others claim both are different groups.

Somewhat unrelated though another ethnoreligious group with possible Jewish origins would be the gnostic Mandaeans (who are curiously both anti-Jewish as well as anti-Xian).

Devash said...

Judaism Supports Nationhood and Borders

moshe said...

The Kurds do not have connection with the Jewish people. They have allied themselves and had some good relations with the Jews. Believe that's it. There is speculation that the Kurds stem from the ancient Kenite people.
As far as Jewish connections with all these people means absolutely nothing, as there is probably no where in the world where there is no Jewish blood mixed in practically with all peoples. Mishmosh has been going on, r'l, since time began. Those who have Jewish neshamot will come back by themselves and convert back to their Jewish roots. Why Jews feel the need to gather in everyone is a mystery. The good peoples of the world will become bnai Noach.

moshe said...

Just read the ten facts you highlighted above. Sounds like there is absolutely no connection to our people, the ancient Israelites. They sound as if they might have been from a tribe of sun, moon and heavenly worshippers. There are quite a few of these types of peoples and religions today all stemming from all the avoda zoras of ancient times. They probably are an offshoot of the Kurds.

Devash said...

Agreed.

Devash said...

I found their obsession to maintain a separate identity compelling - no intermarriage, etc. But, I'm sure you must be right.

Deb Ghedini said...

Amen!

Anonymous said...

There is no doubt that the Kurds are the closest genetic relatives to the Jews. That doesn't mean they are Jewish, but they are still our closest biological relationship. Abraham's family was almost certainly Kurdish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

Jesterhead45 said...

There is also the following link to consider on Andrew Bostom's site, who also wrote The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism: From Sacred Texts to Solemn History (that deals with what Jews went through under Islamic rule including even under the Kurds).

https://www.andrewbostom.org/2019/10/dont-romanticize-the-kurds-longstanding-jihadist-butchery-pkk-marxist-terrorism-evolved-to-fight-ataturks-ethno-racist-turkey-created-sharia-based-iraqi-kurdistan/

Noise Blockers and Other Remedies said...

Remember I said smokescreens? Everything that's going on for the mass convincing is being said. The bottom line is that - regardless of whatever is being dropped in the media -the end result will be US troops in Saudia. And you just know it's a hop, skip and a jump from there to Jerusalem.

Yakov Butterfield said...

"Jews and Kurds are genetically related?" This is like the other DNA claims of being Jewish that count for nothing. https://www.timesofisrael.com/rabbinate-dna-tests-seek-jewishness-in-the-blood-become-a-bone-of-contention/
The key question is "Is your Mother Jewish or have you had a Kosher Torah Conversion and who can verify it?" Everything else in a lie without proof. For example with the Russian Jew without documentation, what about a Beit Din Conversion. The First Question the Beit Din will ask is "Will you keep the Mitzvot?" The reason why the conversion process is so long is that the Rabbinate need to verify that you will keep the Mitzvot.

Devash said...

US plans to send thousands more troops to Saudi Arabia
Oct 11, 2019 @ 19:40
Pentagon sources reveal that a large number of additional troops, possibly thousands, are to be sent to Saudi Arabia, following the Sept.14 attack on its oil facilities attributed to an Iranian cruise missile-drone attack. No official comment has come from the Pentagon. DEBKAfile: Washington is reassessing its military deployment in the Gulf region, including the role of its aircraft carriers, in the wake of that attack. (Debkafile)