15 Tevet 5785
As background to what proceeds from here, please stop and take 2-3 minutes to read the following two blogposts . . .
The Saudi Connection 2 (1 Sep 2013)
Who Is to Blame? (12 Oct 2023)
This is the evidence I present to substantiate my conclusion that October 7th was a false flag attack orchestrated and carried out by the US (Eisav), Saudi Arabia (Yishmael) and Erev Rav elements, both political and military. I think Israel was perceived as too recalcitrant and in need of some inducement to soften its stance. I do, however, believe that Hamas was grossly underestimated.
Before “Operation Al-Aqsa Flood,” launched by Hamas on October 7, 2023, the Biden administration was attempting to conclude a diplomatic groundbreaking deal involving Saudi Arabia and Israel. Although negotiations were underway for several weeks, a final agreement had not yet been reached. Speculation swirled regarding potential concessions to the Palestinians within the deal, although the specifics remained vague. The groundwork for this deal was laid with the announcement of an initiative at the G20 summit aimed at connecting India to Europe via the Middle East through railways, high-speed data cables, and energy pipelines—a move intended to counter the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative in the region.
According to several media reports, the three-way deal would require the United States to sign a defense treaty with Saudi Arabia, that would involve binding commitment to Saudi Arabia’s security, agreeing to a Saudi civilian nuclear program, and the sale of advanced weapons. In return, the Saudis would agree to normalize relations with Israel, scale back their relationship with China, and be more aligned with US interests in the region. Israel would give “undefined concessions” to the Palestinians and in return stand to gain from the wider political and economic impact of normalizing relations with a key Arab and Muslim country.
The events of October 7 significantly disrupted the ongoing negotiations and the deal encountered great obstacles. But the Biden administration remained steadfast in its commitment to seeing the deal through. (Source)
So, here we are again, circling right back around to the same scenario with the same players and they are wasting no time. Hashem yerachem!
. . . Saudi Arabia has conveyed to the United States the imperative of progress toward a Palestinian state as a prerequisite for the deal. The Saudis may acquiesce to a path that falls short of formally declaring a Palestinian state, but they will not agree to a deal without concessions that resonate with Arab public opinion and making them able to justify normalization.Netanyahu remains supportive of the deal, but he believes the defeat of Hamas is the priority and the prelude to normalization. He fears any concessions to the Palestinians could fracture his coalition, precipitating the collapse of his government and the end of his political career. The plan proposed by him regarding the “day after” in Gaza illustrates his commitment to rejecting any concession that would lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state. Nevertheless, normalization with Saudi Arabia represents a potential achievement that he can tout to the Israeli public, mitigating some of the fallout from the events of October 7. (Source)
. . . Saudi Arabia has conveyed to the United States the imperative of progress toward a Palestinian state as a prerequisite for the deal. The Saudis may acquiesce to a path that falls short of formally declaring a Palestinian state, but they will not agree to a deal without concessions that resonate with Arab public opinion and making them able to justify normalization.Netanyahu remains supportive of the deal, but he believes the defeat of Hamas is the priority and the prelude to normalization. He fears any concessions to the Palestinians could fracture his coalition, precipitating the collapse of his government and the end of his political career. The plan proposed by him regarding the “day after” in Gaza illustrates his commitment to rejecting any concession that would lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state. Nevertheless, normalization with Saudi Arabia represents a potential achievement that he can tout to the Israeli public, mitigating some of the fallout from the events of October 7. (Source)
This is what is driving the "ceasefire" agreement, not any idea of rescuing the hostages. It's the "DEAL" Trump wants on "Day One." I don't think he is going to get it though, and that's going to make Trump very angry and very dangerous.
(May 2024)
Please explain why 'normalisation' with Saudi is such a big deal to Israel. Who in Israel cares about it? In any case Saudi needs the US and Israel as a bulwark against Iran. To me it seems that 'normalisation' is just a photo op.
ReplyDeleteImho, far more important to Israelis is truly defeating and removing all Arabs from EY. First, Aza and S. Lebanon, then Yosh, and then the rest, and putting to rest the lie of the plasticine people for once and for all.
Hitoreri
Not this Israeli. And if Bibi really thinks that he'll bring this "achievement" to us and we'll all stand up and applaud, then I think he might have the same dementia problems as Biden. Nobody cares about the Saudis other than rich Jews, like Kushner, getting richer while the rest of us struggle to pay for basic necessities.
DeleteVia "X": Steve Witkoff, President-Elect Donald J. Trump’s Special Envoy for Middle Eastern Affairs, states regarding the Ceasefire and Hostage Deal agreed upon today by Israel and Hamas, “This Deal was achieved because of the help of many and demonstrates that a Policy of Peace through Strength wins. Thank you to the Israeli Negotiating Teams, thank you to the Qataris, thank you to Egypt, thank you to the Biden Administration, and most of all to Donald Trump, whose Policy of Peace through Strength is the one that won.”
ReplyDeleteMore like Peace through Surrender with a stab to the back.
Via "X": Schedule for the release of the hostages in the first phase -
ReplyDeleteOn the first day, three hostages,
On the 7th day, four hostages,
On the 14th, three hostages,
On the 21st, three hostages.
On the 28th, three more hostages will be released,
On the 35th day, three more, and in the last week - the release of the remaining 14 hostages.
It's fluid and subject to change
And that leaves 65 more behind in captivity.
Deleteבס"ד
ReplyDeleteAs far as I am concerned, the so called Abraham Accords with the house of saud is not worth the paper it is printed on. It might as well be written on cheap, 2 ply bathroom tissue and has basically the same function. It can be torn to shreds at a politically expedient moments notice. This could prove to be far more detrimental to Israel than the Oslo Accords. Shemot 23:32, 34:15.
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devorah summarised this disaster perfetly.nothing more to say
ReplyDeleteYasher to the beautiful post & reminder by 'Hitoreri @ 8:04 pm.
ReplyDeleteIt's all about making sure (but cannot happen) that our destiny
cannot materialize, c'v. They are fighting the Creator! That is why
'HE will battle them to the end. There is only Hashem and HE WINS!
Izzy