15 Iyyar 5785
30 Days of the Omer
The Erev Rav are tearing down their State Idol with their own hands! Mark my words, all-out war with the religious will be the last straw for them.
JERUSALEM (VINnews) — Israeli Judge Yoram Broza, who serves as Deputy President of the Magistrate’s Court in Be’er Sheva, was reportedly caught making shocking, and unprecedented remarks against the religious sector on multiple occasions.According to a report by Avishai Grinzeig on i24NEWS, Baroza allegedly told a religious judge:“After we’re done with Hamas, we’ll move on to deal with the religious Zionists. Why weren’t Ben Gvir and his son, or Smotrich and his son, killed? The religious are to blame for everything. Religious Zionists are worse than Hamas. They are the greatest threat to the state.”“This corrupt government and the religious will lead us to destruction. The members of this messianic government will bring about all our deaths.”In another meeting, he allegedly told another judge that religious people were to blame for the October 7 massacre: “Because of you, the religious, all this mess happened. The entire October 7 disaster happened because of you.”
Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara escalated her war against Torah on Tuesday, ordering the IDF to send draft notices to all Chareidim of draft age in the upcoming draft year [which begins in June], without any distinction in their status as Lomdei Torah.There are approximately 80,000 bnei yeshivos who are eligible for the draft and about 18,000 have received draft orders. The implication is that in the upcoming draft year, in addition to the new draft cohort, the IDF will have to send conscription notices to approximately 60,000 bnei yeshivos.Baharav-Miara, whose real goal is to topple the government, is escalating the crisis caused by reports of an arrest operation of Chareidi draft dodgers on Monday evening. The IDF later clarified that the arrests are part of a routine operation that takes place every year.Senior UTJ officials said: “Even if they arrest 20 non-Chareidi draft dodgers and only one ben yeshivah, we will bring down the government.”A senior figure in a Chareidi party told Maariv: “We are examining the meaning of the decision to carry out the arrest of draft dodgers. If Lomdei Torah are arrested, we will not be able to continue in the government. A point worth remembering is that we turned a blind eye to the arrest of bochurim at Ben Gurion Airport, but we will not be able to ignore the arrest of Lomdei Torah.”The military police launched an arrest operation on Tuesday evening against Chareidim who have not reported for conscription orders sent to them in recent months.The arrest of bnei yeshivos for refusing to serve in the army is unprecedented, something that hasn’t happened since the establishment of the state.“In the first stage, we are talking about dozens, an action that is mainly supposed to create deterrence,” Ynet reported.The IDF stated on Tuesday: “Anyone eligible for the draft who did not report for conscription in accordance with the instructions of the order he received is expected to face disciplinary or criminal sanctions.”The IDF later claimed that the arrests are part of a routine operation that takes place every year. “The military police are working to locate and capture deserters from all populations. This is not a targeted action against Chareidim,” the army stated.However, the Charedi parties expressed great anger at the very existence of the operation, especially at the present time, when the draft law is still being formulated.Senior officials in the Chareidi parties conveyed a warning to the Prime Minister’s Office: “If bnei yeshivos are arrested, we will consider immediate resignation from the government.”
the religious MUST serve! A- they are needed re manpower, B- to protect the land of Israel and the people and the Torah- C- to share the burden D- they must contribute as well as Torah learning which they can continue albeit less and carry on after the army and when on leave etc D- in Temple times the Jews fought ALL Jews!
ReplyDeleteBut not to be cannon fodder. When the government and IDF care more about the non-Jewish enemies and what the international community thinks of it, IDF service becomes even more dangerous. The Haredi Draft Issue has nothing to do with the Haredi Draft. This about indoctrination into Western, secular society. The quasi-religious zionists, the state worshiping malakhtim have been duped.
DeleteA - The IDF can't accommodate all of them. Some are going on their own but the IDF can't accommodate large numbers of them anyway. It's not about need. It's political. B - HKB"H protects the Land and People of Israel. He made Gideon send back all but 300 men as proof that our security does not depend on numbers. C - "share the burden" is a load of cr*p. When will the chilonim begin to "share the burden" of Torah study? Since it has already been made clear that this is a war on Torah in order to integrate the Torah learners into Israeli culture, I don't see how they even have a choice to comply. D - In the time of Yehoshua, the men went into battle wearing their tefillin with the Cohen Gadol on site and the Ark of the Covenant at their head. We are not there. God willing, soon!!
DeleteAbout half of all non Arab males of army age do not serve. Arabs don't serve. So only about forty percent of age appropriate men serve. It's either a q of principle that everyone including arabs serve, and if that is not enforced, why is 'equality' only being forced on the hareim. Ofer Winter put out a very interesting video about this. I forget his exact title, but he was high up in the army. It's political not operational. If you understand Hebrew, look for him on yt. It's not true that everyone used to serve, shotrim used to go among the people, telling a whole list of people to go home, a new chatan, the fearful etc. Also, if i'm not mistaken the tribe of Levi didn't fight. We do need an army, but most fundamentally we need Torah learning and more of it, not less of it.
DeleteAlso, about five percent of men do miluim, not sure if that is five percent of all israeli men, or non Arabs. In any case, a small minority are fighting for us, Hashem yishmor otam, and there is no equality, with or without haredim serving.
DeleteNot to mention all the leftists that don't bother serving.....what about them? Are we going to begin rounding them up and imprisoning them for draft dodging?
DeleteThis is 1000 percent political. They don't have the infrastructure to bring on the charedis in the army....this is about toppling the government coalition and getting rid of Bibi. A side bonus is they are hoping to indoctrinate and secularize Charedi youth. They are deathly afraid of the statistics that show the religious rapidly becoming a majority in Israel.
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Here is another - overlooked - side to the issue...
Delete...Lawmakers are expected to examine whether incorporating haredi soldiers into the IDF affects the standing or rights of female personnel.
Among the central items on the agenda is a review of the current participation of women across the IDF, including compulsory service and reserves. Committee members will also consider female representation in command roles and combat positions, trends in recruitment and placement, and differences in screening procedures between male and female conscripts.
...A key question for the committee is whether any changes have already been made to the deployment or service conditions of female soldiers to enable the recruitment of haredim.
Lawmakers intend to assess the legal and practical implications of such changes and ensure they do not result in gender discrimination.
Some observers have expressed concern that fulfilling both objectives may be inherently contradictory. In the Hasmonean Brigade, for example, which is composed exclusively of haredi soldiers, women are entirely absent.
(Source)
Yet, anyone mentioning Ehud Barak's consistent sending of mamlakhti (what people think are RZ) soldiers to their deaths is ok. What is he trying to say? That the robotic cannon fodder (yes, I wrote the offensive term cannon fodder) it's pulling its weight? Or is this just about all religious "pushing" secular Jews toward Torah?
ReplyDeleteIt can’t get worst.
ReplyDeleteI thought the story of Contanists ended with Tsarists Russia
ReplyDeleteThese Erev Rav are beyond EVIL! They don't care if their victims are the state loyalist religious Jews or the chareidim because they hate any G-D fearing Jew and their whole goal is to, c'v, destroy Torah & its adherents, the true Am Yisrael.
ReplyDeleteThis is a maniacal hatred, worse than your typical anti-semite. Any average Jew in Israel who doesn't see this crystal clear truth once and
for all about who these elitists are, are living in their own little bubbles.
How much clearer can it be?
They want as many of the G-D fearing Jews from all sectors to be the
cannon fodder in their sick wars and to secularize any who survive.
That's it! Simple truth. They need to preserve their leftist soldiers to
main their army because their enemy is not the yishmaelim; the true Jews are their enemy!
The Geulah is very close because the people are also waking up & crying out to Hashem for salvation. This is how and when Hashem will show His Mighty Arm. May it come speedily, hayom, miyad, achshav!
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Yes exactly....they would rather burn the state to the ground before allowing the ascendancy of religious and right wing Jews to power in the government....if that isn't Erev Rav, I don't know what is.
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ReplyDeleteHere is a fact for anon@7:28pm. There are at least as many, if not more chiloni, leftist draft dodgers than charedi. The Tel Aviv and Hertziliya social(ist) elites ensure that their doctors (fraudulently) issue, mentally unfit for army service certificates for their children.
But you don't know that because the media does not publish this information that would tarnish their owners. So they contribute no cannon fodder korbanot on behalf of their idols.
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So many meaningless terms or labels. Let's start with "religious." The majority of soldiers in the IDF are "religious." The despised "religious nationalists" are the backbone of the IDF, and have suffered the most losses. So what we're talking about is those sitting in yeshiva or kollel learning all day. I don't like the label "Haredi." Hebrew is a root language, as you know. The root is yirat Shamayim. So.... there are only a few true Haredi today. There are already 2 Orthodox units or battalions in the army. The IDF has said they can't create more at this point. In my opinion, those who receive draft notices should show up. They're not going to be inducted. It would expose the stupidity of it all. On the other hand, there are Orthodox bochorim who have plenty of time to protest and riot, so they should be the first to enlist.
ReplyDeleteRight? I think the same...if they showed up en masse and demanded to enlist to the 2 truly charedi units...the whole charade would end.
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In answer to all this, why should more chareidi men enlist in an army that has gone from being a somewhat Jewish army with love of the Land and many/some also, of course, the love of Hashem and Torah (at the start of the 'State') to a non-Jewish army with a hatred for Jews, where they are determined to secularize the religious soldiers and worst of all, to use them as canon fodder.
ReplyDeleteAt least if these wars were initiated to wipe out the enemy and to gain
total victory over our enemies, then at least there would be a reason
to sacrifice for the sake of Hashem's Holy Name. But, instead there's a war every six months or so, just so many wonderful young men could give their lives and limbs, c'v, and in the end to be defeated. Over and over again, the same evil stupidity.
What the people should demand of these so-called leaders in the
government and in the military is that there should be only G-D fearing
real Jewish Generals heading the military where everything that is about war is according to Torah law! Otherwise, it seems it's more of
a sin to ask the observant Torah Jews to give their lives so the Erev Rav can continue with their evil goals.
Think about that!
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Speaking of the generals, look up the bios of any of them and you will find that as soon as they started up the ladder, they were sent to the US for "education" (make that indoctrination). Some of them spend years there and go through multiple rounds of institutions.
DeleteWhile the current IDF Chief of Staff (Eyal Zamir) received the bulk of his education right here in Israel (Tel Aviv and Haifa), it finished with a stint at The Wharton School 's (Pennsylvania) General Management Program for Senior Executives (GMP).
The previous one, Herzi Halevi, after getting his undergraduate degree from Hebrew University degree, went on to get a Master's at the National Defense University in Washington, DC.
Before him was Aviv Kochavi. He got two master's degrees, one from Harvard and the other from Johns Hopkins.
You get the idea.