tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post966075691031470470..comments2024-03-28T13:09:23.459+02:00Comments on TOMER DEVORAH: Whatever This Is, It Isn't TorahDevorah Chayahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-60884711820847123562017-10-19T18:12:59.607+03:002017-10-19T18:12:59.607+03:00See "mesorah is our bible" http://www.b...See "mesorah is our bible" http://www.baismedrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mesorahisourbible.mp3<br /><br />BGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-71889792158080757542017-10-19T17:56:08.944+03:002017-10-19T17:56:08.944+03:00Regarding Liberal-Orthodox:
"Issues central ...Regarding Liberal-Orthodox:<br /><br />"Issues central to Orthodox faith are also in a further state of ferment than one might assume. While 64 percent of respondents believe the Torah was given at Sinai — a tenet of Orthodox faith — 36 percent of respondents only “tend” to believe this or have doubts. While 51 percent of respondents believe God is involved in their lives, 49 percent only tend to believe this or have serious doubts. The theological “ferment,” as referred to by Bayme, is heavily weighted in the liberal Orthodox camps."<br /><br />http://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/53-of-modern-orthodox-jews-believe-women-should-have-expanded-roles-in-clergy/<br /><br />Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the s'vara based on Rambam's conclusion of the 13 principles:<br /><br />"<br />And when the person will believe all these fundamentals and his faith will be clear in them he enters into the nation of Israel and it is a mitzva to love him and to have mercy on him and to act to him according to all the ways in which God commanded us regarding loving your neighbor. And even if he did all of the sins in the Torah due to desire of the emotions, and from his physical aspect’s conquering him, he will be punished for his sins, but he still has a share in the world to come and is among the sinners of Israel. However if he rejects one of these fundamentals he leaves the nation and is a denier of the fundamentals and is called a heretic, a denier, etc., and it is a mitzva to hate him and to destroy him (financially - not physically to kill him. And not to steal either). And regarding him it is said (Psalms 139) “Behold will not the enemy of God be my enemy?”"<br />BGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-35229085300214263352017-10-19T15:34:34.207+03:002017-10-19T15:34:34.207+03:00Right. HOWEVER please note that in EVERY case whe...Right. HOWEVER please note that in EVERY case where God blesses Abraham, Isaac and Jacob HE states that through us the world will be blessed. that they will be grated in "v'nivrechu" like wild vines on an olive tree (where do the Christians think Paul of Tarsus got this concept from). Genesis Chapter 12 בְּרֵאשִׁית<br /><br />א וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה אֶל-אַבְרָם, לֶךְ-לְךָ מֵאַרְצְךָ וּמִמּוֹלַדְתְּךָ וּמִבֵּית אָבִיךָ, אֶל-הָאָרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר אַרְאֶךָּ. 1 Now the LORD said unto Abram: 'Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto the land that I will show thee.<br />ב וְאֶעֶשְׂךָ, לְגוֹי גָּדוֹל, וַאֲבָרֶכְךָ, וַאֲגַדְּלָה שְׁמֶךָ; וֶהְיֵה, בְּרָכָה. 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and be thou a blessing.<br />ג וַאֲבָרְכָה, מְבָרְכֶיךָ, וּמְקַלֶּלְךָ, אָאֹר; וְנִבְרְכוּ בְךָ, כֹּל מִשְׁפְּחֹת הָאֲדָמָה. 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse; AND IN THEE ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED.'<br />ד וַיֵּלֶךְ אַבְרָם, כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר אֵלָיו יְהוָה, וַיֵּלֶךְ אִתּוֹ, לוֹט; וְאַבְרָם, בֶּן-חָמֵשׁ שָׁנִים וְשִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה, בְּצֵאתוֹ, מֵחָרָן. 4 So Abram went, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him; and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.<br />Bereshit/Genesis 12:1-4<br /><br />also Devarim/Deuteronomy Deuteronomy Chapter 4 דְּבָרִים<br /><br />א וְעַתָּה יִשְׂרָאֵל, שְׁמַע אֶל-הַחֻקִּים וְאֶל-הַמִּשְׁפָּטִים, אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי מְלַמֵּד אֶתְכֶם, לַעֲשׂוֹת--לְמַעַן תִּחְיוּ, וּבָאתֶם וִירִשְׁתֶּם אֶת-הָאָרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵי אֲבֹתֵיכֶם, נֹתֵן לָכֶם. 1 And now, O Israel, hearken unto the statutes and unto the ordinances, which I teach you, to do them; that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD, the God of your fathers, giveth you.<br />ב לֹא תֹסִפוּ, עַל-הַדָּבָר אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי מְצַוֶּה אֶתְכֶם, וְלֹא תִגְרְעוּ, מִמֶּנּוּ--לִשְׁמֹר, אֶת-מִצְוֹת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵיכֶם, אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי, מְצַוֶּה אֶתְכֶם. 2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.<br />ג עֵינֵיכֶם, הָרֹאוֹת, אֵת אֲשֶׁר-עָשָׂה יְהוָה, בְּבַעַל פְּעוֹר: כִּי כָל-הָאִישׁ, אֲשֶׁר הָלַךְ אַחֲרֵי בַעַל-פְּעוֹר--הִשְׁמִידוֹ יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, מִקִּרְבֶּךָ. 3 Your eyes have seen what the LORD did in Baal-peor; for all the men that followed the Baal of Peor, the LORD thy God hath destroyed them from the midst of thee.<br />ד וְאַתֶּם, הַדְּבֵקִים, בַּיהוָה, אֱלֹהֵיכֶם--חַיִּים כֻּלְּכֶם, הַיּוֹם. 4 But ye that did cleave unto the LORD your God are alive every one of you this day.<br />ה רְאֵה לִמַּדְתִּי אֶתְכֶם, חֻקִּים וּמִשְׁפָּטִים, כַּאֲשֶׁר צִוַּנִי, יְהוָה אֱלֹהָי: לַעֲשׂוֹת כֵּן--בְּקֶרֶב הָאָרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר אַתֶּם בָּאִים שָׁמָּה לְרִשְׁתָּהּ. 5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and ordinances, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the midst of the land whither ye go in to possess it.<br />ו וּשְׁמַרְתֶּם, וַעֲשִׂיתֶם--כִּי הִוא חָכְמַתְכֶם וּבִינַתְכֶם, לְעֵינֵי הָעַמִּים: אֲשֶׁר יִשְׁמְעוּן, אֵת כָּל-הַחֻקִּים הָאֵלֶּה, וְאָמְרוּ רַק עַם-חָכָם וְנָבוֹן, הַגּוֹי הַגָּדוֹל הַזֶּה. 6 Observe therefore and do them; FOR THIS IS YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING IN THE SIGHT OF THE PEOPLES, THAT, WHEN THEY HEAR ALL THESE STATUTES, SHALL SAY: <br /> 'SURELY THIS GREAT NATION IS A WISE AND UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE.'<br />ז כִּי מִי-גוֹי גָּדוֹל, אֲשֶׁר-לוֹ אֱלֹהִים קְרֹבִים אֵלָיו, כַּיהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ, בְּכָל-קָרְאֵנוּ אֵלָיו. 7 For what great nation is there, that hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is whensoever we call upon Him?<br />ח וּמִי גּוֹי גָּדוֹל, אֲשֶׁר-לוֹ חֻקִּים וּמִשְׁפָּטִים צַדִּיקִם, כְּכֹל הַתּוֹרָה הַזֹּאת, אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי נֹתֵן לִפְנֵיכֶם הַיּוֹם. 8 And what great nation is there, that hath statutes and ordinances so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?"Mr. Lowell Joseph Gallinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14544612388734835915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-77353728412785128202017-10-19T13:06:51.692+03:002017-10-19T13:06:51.692+03:00Key word is "collective".
The Chumash w...Key word is "collective".<br /><br />The Chumash was written by Moshe--the greatest of all naviim. <br /><br />Sefer Yehoshoua from Yeshohua, Shoftim from Shmuel, etc. -- The rest of Nakh from the other naviim, etc.<br /><br />Mishna is the tanaaim<br /><br />Gemara is the Amoraim..<br /><br />Mishna Torah by Rambam Ztl<br /><br />Shulkhan Arukh by R' Karo, Ztl<br /><br />Mishna Berua by Hafetz Hayim, etc.<br /><br />Igros Moshe by R' Moshe Feinstein, Ztl<br /><br />If a one of the gedolei yisrael gives a psak halacha on some contemporary issue it is also, in essence, becomes Torah She Ba'al peh<br /><br /><br />I see no contradiction to what was written above.<br /><br /> BGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-20415358173485083012017-10-19T10:05:48.970+03:002017-10-19T10:05:48.970+03:00You can add to this, about the liberal leftists: ...You can add to this, about the liberal leftists: "When the leftists protest, he says he's a leftist; when the rightist protest, he says he's a rightist," Elkin explained. "But anyone going over the Zionist Union's party list knows that the Zionist Union is a radical leftist party, the likes of which has never been known before.” Environmental Protection Minister Zeev Elkin (Likud) <a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/236875" rel="nofollow">Zeev Elkin</a>Neshamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06326762185596512130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-75725446364230907962017-10-19T10:02:43.730+03:002017-10-19T10:02:43.730+03:00Just a minute, the body of teachings comes FROM TN...Just a minute, the body of teachings comes FROM TNaCH, Zohar, Kabbalah, etc. One cannot be divorced from the other. Their rulings are based on the body of knowledge we call the Torah (which includes all the commentaries and written works).Neshamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06326762185596512130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-56337908811212566222017-10-18T23:01:21.138+03:002017-10-18T23:01:21.138+03:00so cringy to watch.. it was all a mixture of whash...so cringy to watch.. it was all a mixture of whashdown ''Torah'' that seem very Messianic xtian preachy..as a noahide i wouldnt subscribe to this book..the idea of building bridges already exists in a healthy way all around the world Chabad and Breslover coming to Noahides via hangouts,communities..Rivkah seems a little confuse to say the least not wary for double edged sword balagan :SHeshvangrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941739367349473265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-77197010209335817952017-10-18T21:09:59.414+03:002017-10-18T21:09:59.414+03:00See HERE as well.See <b><a href="http://palmtreeofdeborah.blogspot.co.il/2017/10/war-on-sukkot-final-collaborators.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></b> as well.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-6720489633796073272017-10-18T20:16:45.118+03:002017-10-18T20:16:45.118+03:00To quote one talmid hachman:
"Our Torah is no...To quote one talmid hachman:<br />"Our Torah is not "Tanach" or even the Gemora. Our Torah is the collective body of teachings of the Gedolei Yisroel throughout the generations, from the prophets to contemporary Poskim[--]those that think otherwise are simply following/practicing a different religion.BGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-27008622226169346112017-10-18T19:42:21.860+03:002017-10-18T19:42:21.860+03:00thank you. I was confused about this book.thank you. I was confused about this book.drbsdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11594362274870186418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-70502654935779224362017-10-18T17:46:37.915+03:002017-10-18T17:46:37.915+03:00The praise of the eirev rav and idolaters should g...The praise of the eirev rav and idolaters should give a clue.<br /><br />-meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com