tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post1848159761117199729..comments2024-03-29T07:15:48.612+03:00Comments on TOMER DEVORAH: The Funeral ControversyDevorah Chayahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-7141574011717323472018-09-04T14:06:28.637+03:002018-09-04T14:06:28.637+03:00Good example. Thanks!Good example. Thanks!Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-62500457302662060312018-09-04T12:29:52.776+03:002018-09-04T12:29:52.776+03:00When Orpa and Rus stood by Naomi's side Rus st...When Orpa and Rus stood by Naomi's side Rus stayed and Orpa fled. At that point there was a lsaknon Rus's geiress and Orpa's was annulled. Golias is NOT a Jew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-34745856931099172802018-09-03T14:42:13.090+03:002018-09-03T14:42:13.090+03:00There is no "benefit of the doubt." It i...There is no "benefit of the doubt." It is assur for a Jew to enter a church and it is assur for a Jew to engage in mourning practices on Shabbat. There is no "doubt" here.<br /><br />And yes, Lieberman and who knows how many other Jews there are just as guilty.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-47432753918552067722018-09-03T14:40:17.230+03:002018-09-03T14:40:17.230+03:00"nothing seems strange" - That's the..."nothing seems strange" - That's the main reason I felt the need to point out how very wrong this was. That aspect of it seemed to have escaped notice.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-28387782486815315412018-09-03T14:39:06.303+03:002018-09-03T14:39:06.303+03:00"In certain cases..." - see my answer ab..."In certain cases..." - see my answer above. Also, this case is already suspect because it was done for the sake of marriage. But, in such a case, Mrs. Kushner has committed no sin by attending a funeral in a church on Shabbat.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-64695558065596292942018-09-03T14:37:14.186+03:002018-09-03T14:37:14.186+03:00What you are talking about is when the "conve...What you are talking about is when the "convert" never actually took on observance of the mitzvot thereby indicating it was all for show and that no conversion ever actually took place. If one truly and sincerely converts and then ceases to observe mitzvot, they are just like any born Jew who does the same.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-40509014933139234742018-09-03T08:22:37.208+03:002018-09-03T08:22:37.208+03:00My take on this is to give them the benefit of dou...My take on this is to give them the benefit of doubt. They represented the presidency. They could have walked to the funeral. Not transgressed any laws of Shabbat, but diminished the sanctity and essence. What was worse was Lieberman using the ‘microphone’ to eulogize that traitor and NWO operative. Neshamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06326762185596512130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-39737139866368517792018-09-03T01:14:32.752+03:002018-09-03T01:14:32.752+03:00Truthfully, don't think any real Orthodox Jew ...Truthfully, don't think any real Orthodox Jew thinks that the above mentioned couple is 'really Orthodox'. Too many times, we've read where they are going against Halacha, always giving the excuse of representing the nation, etc., etc. The public at large can be fooled because they can't see anything wrong with what they are doing, but the truly Orthodox community knows better. All this would be okay if their being Orthodox wasn't made so public.<br />They are a very liberal couple. We are now in very confusing times, so nothing seems strange.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-54685893853766492482018-09-03T00:49:02.301+03:002018-09-03T00:49:02.301+03:00It also bothers me to they enter a church on Shab...It also bothers me to they enter a church on Shabat!!! <br />Regarding koahanim entering a non Jewish cemetery I’m not shure about that. I once study that just Jewish cemetery metamtem kohanim but not non Jewish cemetery.<br />drbsdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11594362274870186418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-25021407631957451342018-09-03T00:28:53.532+03:002018-09-03T00:28:53.532+03:00After some research in the Law of a Ger who doesn&...After some research in the Law of a Ger who doesn't keep Halocho I saw the Igros Moshe (Rav Moshe Feinstein) יו"ד ח"ג סימן קח Who indeed writes that the Giyur Is annulled in certain cases. If Mrs Kushner doesn't keep Shabbos and does so in public, maybe she isn't jewish anymore and her husband Mr Yared is married to a Goite. But again, that is upto the Beis Din to Pasken, But to think אחות לנו בבית המלך (as by Ester Hamalka) is indeed doubtful.<br />design ikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440456895605703713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2492192659601155685.post-79835519450431131772018-09-03T00:15:34.318+03:002018-09-03T00:15:34.318+03:00About Kushner's Jiddishkeit, well, a Ger or Gi...About Kushner's Jiddishkeit, well, a Ger or Giyora who doesn't keep Halocho in fact are not considered Jewish anymore ( as far as I can remember) Mrs Kushner doesn't look to me like a Yiddishe Mamme. design ikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440456895605703713noreply@blogger.com